This is a MUST READ | BURKE v. JPMORGAN CHASE BANK, N.A. | ORDER GRANTING IN PART AND DENYING IN PART MOTION TO DISMISS || Excerpt . . . .".....the Court finds that Plaintiffs now sufficiently allege that WaMu ceded any interest upon which it might foreclose when it sold the Loan in 2008. .... "


This is a MUST READ | BURKE v. JPMORGAN CHASE BANK, N.A. | ORDER GRANTING IN PART AND DENYING IN PART MOTION TO DISMISS || Excerpt . . . .”…..the Court finds that Plaintiffs now sufficiently allege that WaMu ceded any interest upon which it might foreclose when it sold the Loan in 2008. …. “

This is a MUST READ | BURKE v. JPMORGAN CHASE BANK, N.A. | ORDER GRANTING IN PART AND DENYING IN PART MOTION TO DISMISS || Excerpt . . . .”…..the Court finds that Plaintiffs now sufficiently allege that WaMu ceded any interest upon which it might foreclose when it sold the Loan in 2008. …. “



Case No. 13-4249 SC.
United States District Court, N.D. California.
May 11, 2015.


SAMUEL CONTI, District Judge.


Plaintiffs Deborah Burke and Sean Burke (collectively, “Plaintiffs”) bring this action in connection with the threatened foreclosure of their home in Livermore, California (“the Property”). On January 14, 2014, the Court granted Defendants’ motion to dismiss and gave Plaintiffs the opportunity to amend their complaint to “set forth specific and plausible allegations explaining why Defendants lack sufficient interest to foreclose on the Property.” ECF No. 25 (“MTD Order”) at 6. Defendants JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. (“JPMorgan”) and Wells Fargo Bank, N.A. (“Wells Fargo”) now move to dismiss Plaintiffs’ first amended complaint (“FAC”) for failure to state a claim pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6). ECF No. 43 (“Mot.”). The motion is fully briefed, ECF Nos. 47 (“Opp’n”), 51 (“Reply”), and appropriate for determination without oral argument pursuant to Civil Local Rule 7-1(b). Accordingly, the motion hearing set for May 15, 2015 is hereby VACATED. For the reasons set for below, the Motion is GRANTED in part and DENIED in part.


On August 7, 2007, Plaintiffs refinanced their existing mortgage on the Property, obtaining a $1,256,250 loan (the “Loan”). ECF No. 29 (“FAC”) ¶ 5, Ex. A. The deed of trust securing the mortgage identifies Washington Mutual Bank, FA (“WaMu“) as the lender. Id. Ex. A (“DOT”). Plaintiffs allege that on or before August 22, 2008, their mortgage loan was contributed to a mortgage backed security (“MBS”) identified as JPMorgan Mortgage Trust 2008 R-2 Pass-through Certificates Series 2008-R2 (“JPMMT 2008-R2″), of which Wells Fargo is the trustee. Id. ¶ 12. Plaintiffs allege that WaMu sold their mortgage loan temporarily to the depositor of the JPMMT 2008-R2, but that the sale failed to assign the DOT. Id. ¶ 16. As Plaintiffs, put it, “[t] his was the first sale of the Plaintiff’s mortgage loan, but without effectively assigning the [DOT] and indorsing the underlying original Promissory Note to the interim loan purchaser. . . .” Id. Next, JP Morgan Acceptance Corporation “sold and securitized the pooled mortgages (including Plaintiffs’ mortgage loan) into the JPMMT 2008-R2 Trust” on or before the trust’s “closing date” on August 22, 2008. Id. Plaintiffs allege that this sale, too, failed to properly assign the DOT or original note. Id.

On September 25, 2008, WaMu was closed by the Office of Thrift Supervision, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (“FDIC”) was named Receiver. On September 25, 2008, JPMorgan acquired certain assets and liabilities of WaMu through an asset purchase agreement with the FDIC. ECF No. 17 (“RJN I”) Ex. 2. Though Plaintiffs now allege that JPMorgan does not have any legal or equitable interests in their loan, they applied for a loan modification with JPMorgan sometime in 2010. FAC ¶ 21. JPMorgan rejected the application in May 2010, stating that Plaintiffs’ income was insufficient. Id. Plaintiffs then reapplied for a loan modification. That application was also rejected, this time on the ground that Plaintiffs had the ability to pay their existing mortgage using cash reserves or other assets. Id. ¶ 22.

On October 28, 2010, a notice of default and election to sell (“NOD”) was recorded with Alameda County, stating that Plaintiffs were $28,024.95 in arrears. Id. ¶ 24, Ex. E.

Plaintiffs allege that the NOD’s statement that Plaintiffs could contact JPMorgan about the foreclosure proceedings was false because JPMorgan had no right to collect mortgage payments, and that there is no evidence that JPMorgan is a valid loan servicer or beneficiary of Plaintiffs’ mortgage. Id. ¶ 24. Plaintiffs reason that because their loan was sold to the MBS trust before JPMorgan acquired the assets of WaMu, JPMorgan did not succeed to the servicing rights of WaMu. Id. The NOD contained a statement certifying that JPMorgan had complied with California law by contacting the borrower to discuss the borrower’s financial situation and to explore options for the borrower to avoid foreclosure. Id. Ex. E. Plaintiffs allege that they were never contacted by a “valid mortgagee” because Defendants JPMorgan and Wells Fargo were not mortgagees or authorized agents.

In April 2011 and April 2012, notices of trustee sales were recorded with Alameda County. Id. ¶¶ 28, 30. The first notice of trustee’s sale indicates that the unpaid balance on the loan was $1,395,095.88. Id. Ex. F. Plaintiffs allege that these instruments, like the NOD, are null and void. Id. ¶ 28-31. It is unclear from the pleadings whether the foreclosure sale has yet taken place.


A. Motion to Dismiss

A motion to dismiss under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6) “tests the legal sufficiency of a claim.” Navarro v. Block, 250 F.3d 729, 732 (9th Cir. 2001). “Dismissal can be based on the lack of a cognizable legal theory or the absence of sufficient facts alleged under a cognizable legal theory.” Balistreri v. Pacifica Police Dep’t, 901 F.2d 696, 699 (9th Cir. 1988). “When there are well-pleaded factual allegations, a court should assume their veracity and then determine whether they plausibly give rise to an entitlement to relief.” Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662, 679 (2009). However, “the tenet that a court must accept as true all of the allegations contained in a complaint is inapplicable to legal conclusions. Threadbare recitals of the elements of a cause of action, supported by mere conclusory statements, do not suffice.” Id. (citing Bell Atl. Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. 544, 555 (2007)).

B. Rule 9(b)

Claims sounding in fraud are subject to the heightened pleading requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 9(b), which requires that a plaintiff alleging fraud “must state with particularity the circumstances constituting fraud.” See Kearns v. Ford Motor Co., 567 F.3d 1120, 1124 (9th Cir. 2009). “To satisfy Rule 9(b), a pleading must identify the who, what, when, where, and how of the misconduct charged, as well as what is false or misleading about [the purportedly fraudulent] statement, and why it is false.” United States ex rel. Cafasso v. Gen. Dynamics C4 Sys., Inc., 637 F.3d 1047, 1055 (9th Cir. 2011) (internal quotation marks and citations omitted).


The gravamen of all seven of Plaintiffs’ claims is that Defendants do not have a beneficial interest in Plaintiffs’ mortgage either because (1) the securitization of the mortgage failed, or (2) Plaintiffs’ mortgage was not transferred as part JPMorgan’s purchase of WaMu’s assets because the mortgage was securitized and sold before the agreement took effect.

The Court already rejected Plaintiffs’ first theory as legally unsound. As the Court explained, “Plaintiffs lack standing to challenge the securitization process because they were not parties to the agreement that securitized the note.” See MTD Order at 4. Plaintiffs have pleaded those claims again, despite the Court’s clear holding that they fail as a matter of law. See FAC ¶ 33; Opp’n at 7-10. To the extent that any of Plaintiffs’ claims are premised on the failed securitization of their mortgage alone, those claims are DISMISSED with prejudice.

The Court previously rejected Plaintiffs’ second theory because it found that the original complaint did not plausibly allege WaMu had transferred its interest in the DOT when it sold the loan. This Court has held that a plaintiff may state a claim for wrongful foreclosure based on allegations that sale of the DOT precluded Defendants from retaining a beneficial interest in that DOT. See Subramani v. Wells Fargo Bank N.A., C 13-1605 SC, 2013 WL 5913789, at *4 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 31, 2013). Though Plaintiffs’ FAC is verbose, unclear, and at times appears internally inconsistent, Plaintiffs now allege, at the very least, that:

WAMU irrevocably sold all right, title and interest in Plaintiffs’ mortgage loan, for value received, to the JPMorgan Mortgage Trust 2008-R2 Mortgage Pass-through Certificates Series 2008-R2 (“JPMMT 2008-R2″), a private label mortgage-backed securities trust with a Real Estate Mortgage Investment Conduit election and continuing qualification.

FAC ¶ 12. Plaintiffs provide significant detail regarding the process through which WaMu allegedly sold their loan. See id. ¶¶ 12-19.

It is true that “[t]here is no stated requirement in California’s non-judicial foreclosure scheme that requires a beneficial interest in the Note to foreclose. Rather, the statute broadly allows a trustee, mortgagee, beneficiary, or any of their agents to initiate non-judicial foreclosure.” Lane v. Vitek Real Estate Indus. Grp., 713 F. Supp. 2d 1092, 1099 (E.D. Cal. 2010). However, Plaintiffs now sufficiently allege that WaMu not only had no beneficial interest in the Loan, but that it was no longer the mortgagee when JPMorgan purchased its assets. Because Plaintiffs now allege that WaMu sold its entire interest in the Loan, the facts render plausible the possibility that Defendants lack standing to foreclose on the mortgage. See, e.g., Subramani, 2013 WL 5913789, at *4; Javaheri v. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A., No. CV10-08185 ODW FFMX, 2011 WL 2173786, at *5 (C.D. Cal. June 2, 2011) (“the abovementioned [similar] facts regarding the transfer of Plaintiff’s Note prior to JPMorgan’s acquisition of WaMu’s assets raise Plaintiff’s right to relief above a speculative level”). The Court proceeds to discuss the effect of this finding on each of Plaintiffs’ claims in turn.

A. Wrongful Foreclosure

Defendants argue that Plaintiffs’ first cause of action must be dismissed because Plaintiffs do not allege any irregularity or illegality in the foreclosure process. As discussed above, however, the Court finds that Plaintiffs now sufficiently allege that WaMu ceded any interest upon which it might foreclose when it sold the Loan in 2008. To the extent that Plaintiffs allege wrongful foreclosure because Defendants were not the “trustee, mortgagee or beneficiary or any of their authorized agents,” Plaintiffs state a claim and Defendants’ motion is DENIED. See Cal. Civ. Code § 2924(a)(1).

B. Quiet Title

Defendants argue that Plaintiffs’ claim for wrongful foreclosure must be dismissed because “the allegations concerning the `holder of the note’ have been invalidated.” Mot at 5. Because the Court finds that Plaintiffs have sufficiently alleged that Defendants are not the holders of the note, this argument fails. The motion is DENIED as to Plaintiffs’ second claim, to the extent that claim is premised on the allegations that Defendants do not have any interest in the note as a result of WaMu’s sale of the Loan.

C. Slander of Title

“The elements of a cause of action for slander of title are (1) a publication, (2) which is without privilege or justification, (3) which is false, and (4) which causes direct and immediate pecuniary loss.” Alpha & Omega Dev., LP v. Whillock Contracting, Inc., 200 Cal. App. 4th 656, 664 (Cal. Ct. App. 2011) (internal quotation marks omitted) (emphasis in original). California Civil Code Section 47 sets out the general definition of a privileged publication, which includes a publication made “[i]n any (1) legislative proceeding, (2) judicial proceeding, (3) in any other official proceeding authorized by law, or (4) in the initiation or course of any other proceeding authorized by law and reviewable pursuant to Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 1084) of Title 1 of Part 3 of the Code of Civil Procedure. . . .” Cal. Civ. Code § 47(b). Section 47 also protects statements made “[i]n a communication, without malice, to a person interested therein, (1) by one who is also interested. . . .”

Plaintiffs allege that Defendants slandered their title in several documents, including letters regarding the loan modification. FAC ¶ 47. As Defendants point out — and Plaintiffs do not contest — statements regarding the loan modification do not slander Plaintiffs’ title. See Mot. at 6, Opp’n at 12-13. Plaintiffs also allege that Defendants slandered their title through the foreclosure documents. FAC ¶ 47. Under California law, “the filing of a notice of default is privileged, except when published with malice.” Barrionuevo v. Chase Bank, N.A., No. C-12-0572 EMC, 2013 WL 4103606, at *5 (N.D. Cal. Aug. 12, 2013). Malice requires that the publication was motivated by hatred or ill will or that defendants lacked reasonable grounds for belief in truth of publication and therefore acted with reckless disregard for plaintiff’s rights.” Id. (internal quotation marks omitted).

Plaintiffs allege that the statements in the foreclosure documents “were made with malicious intent.” FAC ¶ 48. That statement alone is a conclusory assertion not entitled to an assumption of truth. Plaintiffs briefly make more specific allegations that Defendants knew the statements in the foreclosure documents to be false. See id. ¶¶ 25 (the statements were “knowingly false”), 29 (“CHASE and WELLS FARGO knew that they are not valid beneficiaries or servicers”).[1] However, Plaintiffs’ allegations make clear that WaMu attempted to sell, and Defendants attempted to buy, a large portion of WaMu’s assets, which purported to include Plaintiffs’ mortgage. Id. at p.2. There are no allegations that Defendants did not act in good faith in purchasing WaMu’s assets, and there are no facts explaining why JPMorgan should have known that WaMu lacked an interest in Plaintiffs’ loan. The Court therefore finds implausible Plaintiffs’ bare assertions that Defendants knew that the statements in the foreclosure documents were false. The Court cannot find that Plaintiffs’ allegations render plausible the possibility that Defendants lacked reasonable grounds for belief in the truth of the statements included in the foreclosure documents. Therefore, Defendants’ statements in those documents were privileged as a matter of law, and Plaintiffs’ claim fails. Defendants’ motion is GRANTED as to Plaintiffs’ slander of title claim, and the claim is DISMISSED with leave to amend.

D. Fraud

“The elements which must be pleaded to plead a fraud claim are (a) misrepresentation (false representation, concealment or nondisclosure); (b) knowledge of falsity (or `scienter’); (c) intent to defraud, i.e., to induce reliance; (d) justifiable reliance; and (e) resulting damage.” Philipson & Simon v. Gulsvig, 154 Cal. App. 4th 347, 363 (Cal. Ct. App. 2007). Fraud claims are governed by the stricter pleading standards of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 9(b).

Plaintiffs allege that the notice of default and election to sell under deed of trust contained false statements. Plaintiffs claim those statements are false because Defendants knew that they were not valid beneficiaries of Plaintiffs’ loan or owners of Plaintiffs’ debt. For the reasons discussed above, Plaintiffs’ FAC does not contain sufficient factual allegations to plausibly establish that Defendants had knowledge of WaMu’s alleged sale of the mortgage. Instead, Plaintiffs provide only bare assertions that Defendants had knowledge of the sale. Plaintiffs do not explain when or how Defendants obtained that knowledge, nor do they explain why Defendants should have known that WaMu’s attempt to sell Plaintiffs’ debt to JPMorgan was null and void. Thus Plaintiffs have failed to plead scienter with the requisite particularity. Defendants’ motion is GRANTED as to Plaintiffs’ fraud claim, and the claim is DISMISSED with leave to amend.

E. Cancellation of Instruments

Defendants’ argument that Plaintiffs’ cancellation of instruments claim should be dismissed is again premised on the assumption that Plaintiffs fail to allege WaMu’s sale of the loan. See Opp’n at 8-9. Because the Court finds that Plaintiffs now adequately allege that their loan was sold, this argument fails. Defendants’ motion is DENIED as to the cancellation of instruments claim.

F. Violation of Section 2923.5

California Civil Code Section 2923.5 requires that a “mortgage servicer shall contact the borrower in person or by telephone in order to assess the borrower’s financial situation and explore options for the borrower to avoid foreclosure” before recording a notice of default. Cal. Civ. Code § 2923.5(a)(2). Plaintiffs allege that, because no defendant was a legitimate mortgagee, beneficiary, trustee, or authorized agent, Plaintiffs were never contacted by a legitimate mortgage servicer. FAC ¶¶ 68-71.

Defendants first argue that Plaintiffs’ claim fails because JPMorgan was the mortgagee and Wells Fargo was its authorized agent. That argument is insufficient because Plaintiffs have pleaded that WaMu sold all of its interest in the loan before JPMorgan purchased WaMu’s assets.

Next, Defendants argue that Plaintiffs are required to allege that they are willing and able to tender the amount due on the Loan. Defendants argue that Plaintiffs’ claim fails because the FAC does not allege tender. According to Defendants, “[w]ithout an allegation of such tender in the complaint that attacks the validity of the sale, the complaint does not state a cause of action.”[2] Opp’n at 8. The California Court of Appeal has explained why the tender requirement does not apply to Section 2923.5 claims: “the whole point of section 2923.5 is to create a new, even if limited, right to be contacted about the possibility of alternatives to full payment of arrearages. It would be contradictory to thwart the very operation of the statute if enforcement were predicated on full tender.” Mabry v. Superior Court, 185 Cal. App. 4th 208, 225 (2010). Moreover, “if the borrower’s action attacks the validity of the underlying debt, a tender is not required since it would constitute an affirmation of the debt.” Lona v. Citibank, N.A., 202 Cal. App. 4th 89, 112 (Cal. Ct. App. 2011). Thus the tender rule does not apply here, because Plaintiffs’ claims allege that Defendants do not own any of Plaintiffs’ debt. Additionally, “several courts have refused to apply the tender requirement where plaintiff alleges that the defendant lacks authority to foreclose on the property and, thus, that any foreclosure sale would be void rather than merely voidable.” Rockridge Trust v. Wells Fargo, N.A., 985 F. Supp. 2d 1110, 1147 (N.D. Cal. 2013) (collecting cases). Defendants’ motion to dismiss Plaintiffs’ Section 2923.5 claim is DENIED.

G. Unfair Competition

California’s Unfair Competition Law (“UCL”) prohibits unfair competition, which is defined as “any unlawful, unfair or fraudulent business act or practice.” Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code § 17200. Each one of these prongs is a different cause of action. Cel-Tech Comm’cns, Inc. v. L.A. Cellular Tel. Co., 20 Cal. 4th 163, 180. Plaintiffs bring claim under the “fraudulent” prong of the UCL. See FAC ¶¶ 74-75. The Rule 9(b) heightened pleading requirements apply to claims under the UCL’s fraudulent prong. See Kearns v. Ford Motor Co., 567 F.3d 1120, 1125 (9th Cir. 2009).

As described above, the Court finds that Plaintiffs have failed to plead fraud with the specificity required by Rule 9(b). Consequently, Plaintiffs fail to state a UCL claim as well. Defendants’ motion is GRANTED as to Plaintiffs’ UCL claim, and this claim is DISMISSED with leave to amend.

H. Unjust Enrichment

Defendants’ arguments in favor of dismissal of the unjust enrichment claim are again premised on the Court’s rejection of Plaintiffs’ allegations that WaMu sold the Loan. Defendants’ motion is DENIED as to Plaintiffs’ unjust enrichment claim.

I. Breach of Contract, Equal Opportunity Act, and Fair Credit Reporting Act

Plaintiffs’ breach of contract, equal opportunity act, and fair credit reporting act claims were not brought in the original complaint. The Court granted Plaintiffs leave to amend their complaint only to add facts alleging that Defendants’ lack sufficient interest to foreclose on the Property, not to add additional claims. Accordingly, Plaintiffs’ breach of contract and equal opportunity act claims are dismissed without prejudice. Plaintiffs may make a proper motion for leave to amend if they wish to add new claims. Plaintiffs have agreed to withdraw their Fair Credit Reporting Act claim. See Opp’n at 19. That claim is therefore DISMISSED with prejudice.


For the foregoing reasons, Defendants JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A and Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.’s Motion to Dismiss is GRANTED in part and DENIED in part. All of Plaintiffs’ claims are DISMISSED with prejudice to the extent they are premised on deficiencies in the securitization process. Plaintiffs’ claim for violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act is DISMISSED with prejudice. Plaintiffs’ claims for breach of contract and violation of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act are DISMISSED without prejudice. Plaintiffs’ claims for wrongful foreclosure, quiet title, cancelation of instruments, violation of Section 2923.5, and unjust enrichment survive to the extent that they are premised on the theory that WaMu sold its entire interest in the Loan in 2008.

Plaintiffs’ claims for slander of title, fraud, and unfair competition are DISMISSED with leave to amend. Plaintiffs may amend those claims to add allegations sufficient to allege fraud under the standards set out by Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 9(b). If plaintiffs choose to amend their complaint to add such allegations, they must do so within thirty (30) days of the signature date of this Order. Failure to amend within thirty days may result in dismissal of those claims with prejudice.


[1] Plaintiffs also allege that Washington Mutual Bank, FA changed its name to Washington Mutual Bank in April of 2005. See id. Plaintiffs apparently assert that WaMu therefore ceased to exist as a legal entity and that JPMorgan knew it could not buy any assets (including Plaintiffs’ loan) from WaMu. Plaintiffs in foreclosure cases like this one have repeatedly advanced that theory, and courts have repeatedly rejected it. See, e.g., Lanini v. JPMorgan Chase Bank, No. 2:13-CV-00027 KJM, 2014 WL 1347365, at *3 (E.D. Cal. Apr. 4, 2014) (“Plaintiffs have cited nothing to support their claim that the bank’s change of name means the bank itself ceased to exist.”). The Court agrees with the numerous other judges who have rejected this theory and holds that Plaintiffs’ claims regarding JPMorgan’s chain of title to the mortgage and Defendants’ knowledge of their lack of interest in the Loan may not be premised on WaMu’s name change in 2005.

[2] It is unclear why Defendants make this argument only in opposition to Plaintiffs’ Section 2923.5 claim and not all of Plaintiffs’ claims. Regardless, some of the Court’s reasons for rejecting Defendants’ argument apply to all of Plaintiffs’ claims.

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  1. jonny says:

    Can someone explain what all this means?

  2. anon says:

    The Court says that the Trust is the owner of the mortgage and not the bank , so if the bank is trying to sue its possible to defend saying they have sold the rights to the trust if they are not one of the same ; thats how im seeing it

  3. “MUST READ” but Must Not Believe.

    This court order cites to the Javaheri Case which received similarly favorable court orders for several years but was eventually trashed.
    Javaheri’s many appeals were also trashed.

    I think this Burke case will end with a fate similar to Javaheri and similar to the fates of millions of other cases.

    The fix for this colossal U.S. crime banks’ plunder was planned over 30 years ago.
    The S & L crisis of the 1980s was a test trial of the 2008 financial meltdown.

    Study the past several centuries of crime masters’ global geo-political operations in this marvelous book recently posted in Veterans Today website:

    “PAWNS IN THE GAME” by: Commander William Guy Carr (authored 1955)

  4. frontncenter says:

    Yes! Of course… The REMIC Trust wishes to give up its billion in tax exemptions in exchange for foreclosure rights of your home… Really?? So give me the contact info for the trust Mr. Banker.. No, not the number to a branch of your bank, the actual REMIC tier.

    Oh, what’s that? You can’t? You won’t? Why not? They PSA states they must keep updated contact info, and the numbers in the PSA are out of service! Or we can just go to the trust address and see how that pans out! Why are you panicking Mr. Banker? Is it because if people start attacking the trust they will find out your full of shit?! So… now what is this DTC and why do they try so hard to remain as quite as possible? hmmm. God forbid they get involve, right Mr. Banker?

    After all.. You Banks have tried so hard to divert attention away from these situations… It’s funny cause I don’t recall seeing any of this circus of secrets in the mortgage docs? Can you please point out where the people agreed to allow it? Show us the disclosures? That wouldn’t effect the court cases if people were to state these facts, would it? Just because theres no way in hell anyone would ever agree to your bullshit, and the outcome would be different had they known or were made aware or given consideration, right?

  5. frontncenter says:

    But why complicate things…

    Is that an allonge? What is it that it’s firmly attached to? It sure couldn’t be an original instrument as required by UCC! Not if it’s WAMU, since all the originals were destroyed! Right?

  6. Front & Center says:

    I don’t understand why people keep making the claim that WAMU ceased to exist just because it changed it’s name. Especially if they just repeat what they read or hear without any proof to back up those claims.

    For 1) It’s not true; and 2) It’s not even the real issue..

    But I guess the fact people are still making claims in court cases without any proof at all speaks for itself. It just makes it easier for the courts to deny valid claims.

    At first I believed the courts were just railroading homeowners but now it’s clear the problem is they are railroading themselves. Know your cases, and get the evidence for every claim or if you cant then state with a show of proof that you tried to no avail and then use that to show your valid reasons for the need of discovery and/or trial.

    Your already prejudiced before you even walk into court, why make it worse?

  7. Vic Peterson says:

    I lost my house the exact same way December 1st 2014 had to be out by March 1st 2015
    Wamu to chase
    I had a federal pending against Chase during the foreclosure can I get my home back ?


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